Well, It absolutely KILLS me to say this.

But, we got the rods back and after some careful measureing and subsequent detailed mockup in the motor, these R&R connecting rods are junk!

I took the worst rod and mocked it up in the motor and still had .010 slope from front to back.

Then I turned the rod around and left the piston facing the same way.

MAN ID BE FREEKIN PIZZED!!!!!!

I Whats the deal?? Maybee you can get a refund and buy tome custom Oliver, or Crower stuff? I hate to see ya have such problems.

Hope ya get her fixed up.

Kasey

How far off were they before? Possible the big end is bad also? What about bearings, have you double checked the bearing thickness across it's surface?

Man I really feel sorry for you! I know by watching your build that you are a perfectionist. What really burns me is that after the "mistake" on the original machining of these rods,they have the seeds to send them to you like this the 2nd time. Did they even check them in the fixture? That sucks

I know, Wouldnt that make ya crazy mad Randy..

My engine is nothing compaired to this monster, but Im checkin, and recheckin everything to make sure nothing is like his, man its sad to see his troubles.

THOSE RODS SUUUUUUUCKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!! Words cannot even describe how ticked off I would be. For the money spent on those rods, there is no reason that these rods should have this problem. I understand minor machining flaws and a company making good on the problems, but this is ridiculous!! I have found many components having small issues from some very reputable companies but I catch the problem, notify the manufacturer and they have always addressed my issues. To this day I have not had the unfortunate opportunity to have what happened to Ron, happen to me. I really hope that after a failed attempt at trying to repair a poorly manufactured component, that the company will refund the money. Im ticked off and Im not the one that has spent the dough and time putting this engine together.

Sorry to hear Ron, Im sure you will get it figured out.....Phill PS, good luck at MATS

So they corrected your incorrect rods even more incorrectly?

I'm sorry man. I would have to go with another rod at this point, while going after them with a vengeance.

That's just crap no one spending this amount of money should be subjected to.

If you think about it NOBODY wants to rework their product. These rods clearly show this. They just thrashed them out and sent them back to me with little care or attention to detail. They even dropped one of the rods and did not even bother to deburr it where they dinged it and they did a really terrible job of packaging them and I don't think they even insured them.

In fact, when they came back, they were better but no where near what would be acceptable. Before, most if not all were +.007 on the one side (chamfer) and -.007 on the other side for a slope of .014 .....Now, the worst one is shown above, .010 slope. The next best one would probably be about .005 slope (based on my measurments,still not good enough) and the 2 best ones would probably be within .001 slope with a few in between. So I could probably use 2 of them after they were supposedly fixed.

Yes, these Rods from R&R Racing Products will never go in my Motor. Now I have to do a complete teardown to the bare block and rebalance the crank, AS WELL AS wait 6-8 weeks for a new set of rods (if I am lucky).

NEVER use these Guys : R&R Racing Products or R & R Connecting Rods
http://www.rrconnectingrods.com/

what about HRC (Howards Racing Components)? they offer reasonable price billet rods, I haven't heard anything bad about their quality control...

I'm ordering Carillo A beams for it.... & crank will go back to Bryant for re-balance, but I'm going to try to get Carrillo to get the Big End/Small End weights as close as possible to the R&R's

Real shame, those R&R's look like a very nice piece, but seems they can't hold a tolerance to save their lives. It's funny because they actually sent the rods out the second time to have ANOTHER shop "try" to straighten out the pin ends... & apparently second shop could'nt get them correct either.

I hav'nt had rods back in my hands since I first shipped them to Ron, but will put them on the Sunnen when they get back here for some measurements before I send them back to R&R for a refund.

Ryan,

WILL R&R refund Rons money in FULL??

i WOULD HOPE SO!!!

Awesome build, can't wait to see it finished, but I feel your pain on the rods. It's bad enough buyer cheaper parts and them not being right but top dollar rods should be PERFECT every time, no question. And on top of that, you would think that if they did screw up they would move mountains to make it right and compensate you to boot.

I hope they see this thread cos it doesn't sound like they will be getting any more Mopar business - shame on them.

Only consolation I can say is that when you finally have the motor together right this will fade away somewhat and be replaced by the big SMILE on your face!!

it's always very frustrating dealing with issues in life like this. may not always be a connecting rod but its still the same game.I will never understand how some companies/people can push off B/S and think others should just take it.
Ron, I hope you have better luck with your build from here on out. It sure looks like Ryan is the type of guy that goes the extra mile, always allot better when you have somebody like that on your side.

Another

Isn't there going to be a magazine article on this engine? You'd think R&R would do their best to avoid any bad publicity.